tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37212943.post8723778097356592407..comments2023-09-09T02:38:28.265-05:00Comments on LDS (Mormonism) Deep Doctrine: Age and WisdomDoug Towershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17119162546723347214noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37212943.post-366449985993357962009-01-13T19:50:00.000-06:002009-01-13T19:50:00.000-06:00DenidowiThe comment in the Book of Mormon that he ...Denidowi<BR/><BR/>The comment in the Book of Mormon that he was chosen for his revelatory ability may not mean that he was the president of the priesthood, but a prophet he certainly was.<BR/><BR/>I think we get a little too caught up in this "the prophet" business, in the church. God has many prophets and prophetessess at this time upon the earth. But there is only one president of the priesthood for the church itself.<BR/><BR/>It is questionable whether we could regard Mormon to hold that specific office. But he certainly was young and receiving revelation. He was also called to preach to the Nephites at 15. Abinadi was also rejected and didn't get respect. Also he wasn't the president of the priesthood either. Yet both were called to perform the tast REGARDLESS of age. Which is the point I'm making.<BR/><BR/>Mormon had no apparent losses during those years either, as the Book of Mormon mentions no battles occurring at that time. Yet he still was given the office at that age. Had the army been opposed to it, it would not have happened. These people were in a life and death struggle. They trusted his prophetic leadership, as the Book of Mormon states.<BR/><BR/>The point of the post is to present that God has, and will continue to call upon young people to do his work regardless of age. So he is demonstrating that he doesn't believe that some people are too young. These people quoted demonstrate this point.Doug Towershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17119162546723347214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37212943.post-81211895640815672262009-01-13T07:04:00.000-06:002009-01-13T07:04:00.000-06:00I think you will find, Doug, that Goddoes not call...I think you will find, Doug, that Goddoes not call upon young ones to act in the office of Prophet, nor officiate in that office.<BR/>Nevertheless, one can be even of primary age and still receive and teach others by aid of 'the spirit of prophecy'.<BR/>This is as Jesus taught in the temple, aged 12.<BR/>Nevertheless, God had not ordained Him to the office of High Priest or Prophet at that age.<BR/>He, Himself, merely declared that He be "about my Father's business".<BR/>As I made some study of excatly how Mormon succeeded at 15, I found that basically, he didn't.<BR/>As I said previously, there were no recorded victories among the men of Nephi under hisleadership, despite their many wars til Mormon reached about 19.<BR/>Also his spiritual attempts to them fell on deaf ears.<BR/>So, one might be inclined to read into that that he had not yet earned their respect or admiration.<BR/>That is, besidesthe fact that they were just not religious regardless.DH Towershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05763030558270554742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37212943.post-2947678599561454542008-12-29T19:34:00.000-06:002008-12-29T19:34:00.000-06:00DenidowiIt is true that they didn't want to hear M...Denidowi<BR/><BR/>It is true that they didn't want to hear Mormon's message. But this didn't stop God from calling him. Nor is there any mention that they rejected his leadership from a militarilistic point of view.<BR/><BR/>I don't see the association between them boasting of success and this meaning they had been losing during his leadership time. It could have meant that they hadn't had such a major victory or that there had been very little activity during that time.<BR/><BR/>This also doesn't seem to relate to Samuel. We also have the point that Jesus Christ taught in the temple at 12.<BR/><BR/>God does generally choose people who have had the experience of successfully raising a family and having a good marriage, to be leaders. But God does as God feels appropriate in any given situation.Doug Towershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17119162546723347214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37212943.post-32063782350054669982008-12-24T06:57:00.000-06:002008-12-24T06:57:00.000-06:00People often bring up this idea that God would not...People often bring up this idea that God would not call a 14 year old prophet!<BR/>And they are right! Neither He would. So He didn't! He called a 24 year-old "prophet". Joseph did not receive the Priesthood until he was near this age.<BR/>God merely instructed him at 14 and 17, etc.<BR/>He was a student, being trained under the hand of God and via the Holy Ghost.<BR/><BR/>Now as for our young friend, Mormon: I wondered the same thing about the men accepting a 15 year-old leader, and as to how he performed at 15.<BR/>So you will need to go back over the specifics of the record there; you will notice, upon very careful time examination, that he was about 19 before he had his first victory with the Nephites; and when he had that victory, the men were stupid enough to go about boasting in their own strength - which, really, just shows how little they were used to winning!!<BR/>If you also have a close look when he was first appointed Captain at 15, you will probably notice that the men didn't seem to have much respect for his leadership, nor for the preaching of this young upstart!DH Towershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05763030558270554742noreply@blogger.com